secondly, i will say that jack lew, who is the president's head chief of staff has been and continues to be an extremely valuable adviser to the president. over the past more than a quarter of a century, jack lew has been an integral part of some of the most important budgetary, financial and fiscal agreements, a bipartisan agreement in washington. he was there when social security was reformed under president ronald reagan. he was there when tax reform passed at the table in the 1980's. he was the cabinet level director of omb for president clinton when our budget was balanced for the first time in a generation, and she served also as you know as deputy secretary of state and has again served as the omb director overseeing some very important agreements and playing a major role in achieving them president obama and now the last year has been a remarkably capable chief of staff. >> i just thought i would say that about jack. [laughter] [inaudible] not that i'm aware of. >> how does the president of view the role of the treasury secretary? they have a different set of obstacles and cha